Without DirecTV, Nickelodeon's ratings tumble

Post by TMC
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-nickratings-20120716,0,1495882.story
A Viacom spokesperson notes that Nickelodeon is "the most watched
cable network on DirecTV."
Greed only takes you so far....

If Nickelodeon is the most watched cable channel on DirecTV, then it isn't
'greedy' for Viacom to be looking to receive top dollar from DirecTV.

Mike Vincent

2012-07-17 14:37:56 UTC

Post by Obveeus

If Nickelodeon is the most watched cable channel on DirecTV, then it isn't
'greedy' for Viacom to be looking to receive top dollar from DirecTV.

It seems like Nick needs DTV more than DTV needs Nick, so perhaps the
dollars should be flowing in the other direction.

Kimba W Lion

2012-07-17 15:11:22 UTC

Post by Mike Vincent
It seems like Nick needs DTV more than DTV needs Nick, so perhaps the
dollars should be flowing in the other direction.

Any ad-supported channel needs the carriers. No carrier = no viewers = nothing
to sell to the advertisers. Any payment by the carrier to the channel is
passed along to the viewers, so we end up paying twice, when you consider that
having ads is supposed to be the price we pay.

Bravo to DirecTV for standing up to Viacom, and bravo to Dish Network for
standing up to AMC. Those channels need us, we don't need them. The current
system is screwy and needs to be shaken up.

Lynn McGuire

2012-07-17 16:53:28 UTC

Post by Mike Vincent
It seems like Nick needs DTV more than DTV needs Nick, so perhaps the
dollars should be flowing in the other direction.

Any ad-supported channel needs the carriers. No carrier = no viewers = nothing
to sell to the advertisers. Any payment by the carrier to the channel is
passed along to the viewers, so we end up paying twice, when you consider that
having ads is supposed to be the price we pay.
Bravo to DirecTV for standing up to Viacom, and bravo to Dish Network for
standing up to AMC. Those channels need us, we don't need them. The current
system is screwy and needs to be shaken up.

I saw that DirecTV added the Disney Jr. channel
yesterday so DirecTV is making plans to be
without Viacom. I wonder what Viacom is doing ?

Lynn

Warewolf

2012-07-17 17:01:58 UTC

Post by Lynn McGuire
I saw that DirecTV added the Disney Jr. channel
yesterday so DirecTV is making plans to be
without Viacom. I wonder what Viacom is doing ?

Regretting that they didn't offer a more robust Daria box set, I hope. 9_9

(They could have sold so much more if they'd done a better job...and
smacked the RIAA around like no tomorrow) -_-

Oh well.

Signed,
Warewolf
who was quite impressed with Media Blasters' handing of the packaging for
Invader Zim

Lloyd

2012-07-17 17:43:51 UTC

Post by Mike Vincent
It seems like Nick needs DTV more than DTV needs Nick, so perhaps the
dollars should be flowing in the other direction.

Any ad-supported channel needs the carriers. No carrier = no viewers = nothing
to sell to the advertisers. Any payment by the carrier to the channel is
passed along to the viewers, so we end up paying twice, when you consider that
having ads is supposed to be the price we pay.
Bravo to DirecTV for standing up to Viacom, and bravo to Dish Network for
standing up to AMC. Those channels need us, we don't need them. The current
system is screwy and needs to be shaken up.

I saw that DirecTV added the Disney Jr. channel
yesterday so DirecTV is making plans to be
without Viacom. I wonder what Viacom is doing ?
Lynn

I think you're over reading. They added Disney Jr in SD to help placate
those with small children and did not put them on a former Viacom slot.

anim8rFSK

2012-07-17 19:05:24 UTC

Post by Mike Vincent
It seems like Nick needs DTV more than DTV needs Nick, so perhaps the
dollars should be flowing in the other direction.

Any ad-supported channel needs the carriers. No carrier = no viewers = nothing
to sell to the advertisers. Any payment by the carrier to the channel is
passed along to the viewers, so we end up paying twice, when you consider that
having ads is supposed to be the price we pay.
Bravo to DirecTV for standing up to Viacom, and bravo to Dish Network for
standing up to AMC. Those channels need us, we don't need them. The current
system is screwy and needs to be shaken up.

I saw that DirecTV added the Disney Jr. channel
yesterday so DirecTV is making plans to be
without Viacom. I wonder what Viacom is doing ?
Lynn

Might be a coincidence; I just noticed Disney Junior on COX this weekend
as well.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

Professor Bubba

2012-07-17 19:40:36 UTC

Post by anim8rFSK

Post by Mike Vincent
It seems like Nick needs DTV more than DTV needs Nick, so perhaps the
dollars should be flowing in the other direction.

Any ad-supported channel needs the carriers. No carrier = no viewers = nothing
to sell to the advertisers. Any payment by the carrier to the channel is
passed along to the viewers, so we end up paying twice, when you consider that
having ads is supposed to be the price we pay.
Bravo to DirecTV for standing up to Viacom, and bravo to Dish Network for
standing up to AMC. Those channels need us, we don't need them. The current
system is screwy and needs to be shaken up.

I saw that DirecTV added the Disney Jr. channel
yesterday so DirecTV is making plans to be
without Viacom. I wonder what Viacom is doing ?
Lynn

Might be a coincidence; I just noticed Disney Junior on COX this weekend
as well.

It is. Disney Jr. has been pending for a couple of years now. What's
interesting is that it was supposed to replace Soapnet, but Soapnet is
still there.

anim8rFSK

2012-07-18 00:15:15 UTC

Post by Professor Bubba

Post by anim8rFSK

Post by Mike Vincent
It seems like Nick needs DTV more than DTV needs Nick, so perhaps the
dollars should be flowing in the other direction.

Any ad-supported channel needs the carriers. No carrier = no viewers = nothing
to sell to the advertisers. Any payment by the carrier to the channel is
passed along to the viewers, so we end up paying twice, when you
consider
that
having ads is supposed to be the price we pay.
Bravo to DirecTV for standing up to Viacom, and bravo to Dish Network for
standing up to AMC. Those channels need us, we don't need them. The current
system is screwy and needs to be shaken up.

I saw that DirecTV added the Disney Jr. channel
yesterday so DirecTV is making plans to be
without Viacom. I wonder what Viacom is doing ?
Lynn

Might be a coincidence; I just noticed Disney Junior on COX this weekend
as well.

It is. Disney Jr. has been pending for a couple of years now. What's
interesting is that it was supposed to replace Soapnet, but Soapnet is
still there.

This should make Ian happy?

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

Warewolf

2012-07-17 16:55:38 UTC

Those channels need us, we don't need them. The current system is screwy
and needs to be shaken up.

Along with their schedules, I'm sure but would even a late-night genie
series be able to salvage whatever entertainment value is/could be left in
the wasteland?

Series like MLP:FiM and Megas XLR are just building blocks - you need a
suitable (read: watchable) structure in your schedule if you plan to draw
your (former) viewers away from sites like YouTube (where you'll find that
many classic series reside).

Signed,
Warewolf
who only buys *non-butchered* DVD boxsets when they interest him, thank you
very much.

TMC

2012-07-19 00:35:57 UTC